Charlie Brown’s Extreme Anti-Marriage Support

By Jon Huey, on October 10, 2008

This is a press release from the Yes on Proposition 8 campaign on Charlie's opposition on the initiative to protect marriage. After months of being wishy-washy on the issue, Charlie finally stated his position on last night's Bruce Maiman Show when a caller repeatedly pressed him on where he stood on Proposition 8.

Charlie Brown’s Extreme Anti-Marriage Support

Yes on Proposition 8’s campaign director Karen England issued the following statement regarding 4th congressional candidate Charlie Brown’s opposition to Proposition 8:

“For California families, there is no other political issue this election as important as saving marriage.  That’s why it is imperative that voters support only candidates who respect traditional marriage. Charlie Brown’s astonishing opposition to Proposition 8 reveals just how out of touch he is with citizens in the 4th congressional district—and the overwhelming majority of Californians and Americans.

“After evading the issue for months, Mr. Brown finally declared that he does not support Proposition 8. This means that Mr. Brown supports four activist judges overturning Proposition 22, and imposing their social agenda on Californians.

“Not only am I working to pass Proposition 8, I’m a resident of the 4th congressional district. I know my fellow voters in this district—they’re my neighbors and friends. In his opposition to Proposition 8, Mr. Brown sides with radical liberals who certainly don’t represent the values of our community.

“Given his outright opposition to the most essential issue to families—the definition of marriage—Mr. Brown is not the candidate voters in support of marriage will ever support.”

A 4th congressional district resident from Roseville, Karen England is the campaign director for Yes on Proposition 8. This voter-supported campaign committee is dedicated to educating voters about the issue of marriage. To learn more, visit www.YesonProposition8.com

FYI - an email from an extremely liberal group [Coalition for Change] in El Dorado Co:

Hi There are 3 upcoming rallies scheduled for Charlie Brown.
Come to one or all...it is easy and fun!

The first is being organized by the Brown campaign in conjunction with the forum Monday night. See the info below from Matt.

The second 2 are Coalition rallies:
*Tues. Oct. 21 4-5:30 on Missouri Flat (park in the park and pool lot by Highway 50).
*Tues. Oct. 28 4-5:30 in Placerville (somewhere on Highway 50 in Placerville)

We are down to the wire now so let's get Charlie's name out in the public arena. Hope to see you at all three events. Patty (for C4C)

Hello Coalition,

Tomorrow night, as you know, there will be a candidates forum at the Board of Supervisors meeting room on Fair Lane. But before Charlie debates McClintock, we want to be there to cheer on Charlie and intimidate McClintock.

We’re organizing a big Brown rally outside so that we can show McClintock that this is our turf! We’ll be starting at 5 pm, going for about an hour and a half, and then going in around 6:30.

Please recruit as many rally-sign-waving folks as possible! Last week, we had about 40 people in Oroville. We can do better than that!

Take care,

Matt

P.S. Advocating expanding marriage isn't being anti-marriage. Quite the opposite. It's saying marriage is so great that we ought to apply it to more situations

If Prop 8 passes then churches will lose their tax exemption if they do not go along with allowing gay marriages in their church. Vote Yes on 8!!

Jim,
Restricting marriage isn't the "freedoms so many thousands have died for." Government is created by the Constitution, and as such, is obligated not to discriminate against people by gender or sexual orientation.

As far as the court overruling, we don't live in a direct pure democracy. We live in a Constitutional democracy. The majority's will is respected as long as the individual rights are protected. Prop 22 stepped over that line, and so does Prop 8.

Prop 8 has nothing to do with churches and you know that. Pure propoganda

Josh,

Prop 8 has nothing to do with religious freedom but everything to do with our collective freedom to be free from state imposed religious point of view. Churches already has to right to refuse religious ceremony to people of another denomination or to non-members. So, even if prop 8 passes, churches can still rally against premarital sex, divorces, or same sex couples without fear of loosing their tax exempt status.

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Jim,

I will be very careful about rallying against the supposed "Activist Judges" since 6 by the 9 judges were appointed by Republicans. Furthermore, the majority must not be allowed to subvert the basic idea of equality under the law. Ugly episodes of civil right transgression on our own citizens is often resulted from the tyranny of the majority.

If you consider yourself to a conservative in terms of liberty and freedom, you need to reconsider your stance on Prop 8 and vote No on Prop 8.

John

Why the hate?

10-07-08

I gave my friend a couple of “Yes on 8” signs to put up in her yard Sunday. This morning when she was walking out of her home to take her two girls to school, she found the remnants of the signs, torn to shreds on her front porch. Not in the street mind you, not even on her lawn… No, this person or people wanted to make a statement to this single mom of two, and threw the ripped pieces out on her front porch so that she would be sure to step on it on her way out.

I ask you . . . Why the hate?

In 2000, 4 million Californians voted in favor of proposition 22. Sixty-one percent of voters in the state said that they wanted marriage to be understood as the union between one man and one woman. That is an overwhelming majority. A few months ago 4 activist judges here in California thought that their opinion was more relevant, or correct than those 4 million Californians and OVER RULED OUR VOTE! This infuriates me!

Now, because we want to stand up for democracy and against the tyrannical rule of activist judges going against the wills and votes of the great citizens of California , we are deemed as the haters. We Stand for the same freedoms that our forefathers stood for. We do not want to be ruled over by a select few men. Thousands of people have died to protect our freedoms and right to vote. This same kind of thing is what thousands upon thousands of people leave their native countries and immigrate to America to get away from. Don’t we get it?

This issue has turned, in the media, to a gay-hating issue. I do not hate anyone! This issue has bee turned, in the media, to a “removing of rights” issue. It is not! Just to make sure, I called and spoke with the Human Resource Directors of several companies here in California employing thousands of good hard-working people. All 3 of the HR Directors agree… Domestic Partnership laws give the same rights to couples, (straight or gay) as they do to married couples. This proposition will remove NONE of those "rights."

What a vote against Proposition 8 will do, as we have seen in Massachusetts , is cause frivolous lawsuits against people because of their beliefs. If we do not vote Yes, we will see the state and judges dictate what we can believe and practice in our churches. We will be forced to forego our moral and religious stance against joining same gender couples. Freedom of Religion will be a thing of the past.

Voting YES on Proposition 8 is NOT a vote against homosexuals; it is NOT a vote of hate; it is not a vote to take away anyone's rights. YES ON 8 IS A VOTE FOR AMERICA . YES ON 8 is a vote to support our constitution; to continue the freedoms that so many thousands have died for; a vote to enjoy the freedom of religion that this country was founded on and for.

United We Stand – In God We Still Trust

Marriage equality will cause the sky to fall! It'll destroy civilization as we know it! It'll cause more problems in marriage!

Wait, we've had marriage equality for months now, and nothing has been a problem.

Oh, but it did kill the dinosaurs.

Please, spare me

I think you mean "if Prop 8 fails" and regardless, that's a lie. Read Article I of the California Constitution

SEC. 4. Free exercise and enjoyment of religion without discrimination or preference are guaranteed. This liberty of conscience does not excuse acts that are licentious or inconsistent with the peace or safety of the State. The Legislature shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

SEC. 8. A person may not be disqualified from entering or pursuing a business, profession, vocation, or employment because of sex, race, creed, color, or national or ethnic origin.

SEC. 31. (a) The State shall not discriminate against, or grant preferential treatment to, any individual or group on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in the operation of public employment, public education, or public contracting.

Catholic churches can refuse to facilitate a marriage if they both aren't catholic. Mormon bishops can refuse to facilitate the marriage of non-mormons. They haven't lost their tax exempt status

The very court decision you (prop 8 supporters) are up in arms about said clearly:

"Finally, affording same-sex couples the opportunity to obtain the designation of marriage will not impinge upon the religious freedom of any religious organization, official, or any other person; no religion will be required to change its religious policies or practices with regard to same-sex couples, and no religious officiant will be required to solemnize a marriage in contravention of his or her religious beliefs. "

I'm sorry to shoot your concern full of holes but those are the facts, and as John Adams said, "facts are stubborn things." I am getting very tired of this (actually I already am) malarkey being spread by the prop 8 proponents. If you want to argue for limiting marriage between a man and a woman at the state level, fine, but don't make up lies to support your proposition

Heterosexuals can only marry who the law allows them to marry. Why shouldn't homosexuals abide by the same laws? Why should they get "special treatment"?